9 Avalanche). [deleted] • 7 yr. Instead of doing 15-5 tank-mot, do 13-5-4 tank-mot-SPAA with support AA. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. Outside of a tank division as their own dedicated motorized. If at all possible in any capacity, get a desktop. This is the fact AI never upgrades sonar or detection and will never retreat when they cannot detect their enemy. I use tanks for occupation, go for the craziest possible. Apr 25, 2018. After the 5th their org should be down enough to run over. Or there is a meta going around where people spam cheap destroyers with a large amount of torpedo's on it. - There are at least 15 Support Company types in the game (assuming some nation-specific ones as well like Assault Battalions) with 5 slots. Due to submarines being nerfed in 1. 1 comment. ago. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). 12. Submarine Spam. Screens are needed in large quantities to counter carrier NAV spam. #hoi4 #news #HYPEA closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in the works!Dev Diary: I have 500 hours on the game, mostly in multiplayer focusing on Navies since I cant micro ground forces very good. Or there is a meta going around where people spam cheap destroyers with a large amount of torpedo's on it. destroy_ships = { type = ship_hull_heavy count = 2 } this might be what youre looking for? (wtt. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. Not surprised at the end result. Rakzhor • Research Scientist • 7 yr. edit: Also, have you researched any naval doctrine? The quickest way to kill submarines is destroyers equipped with sonar 2 and radar 3 set to patrol with many bombers over them. Some vague answers: Germany has an advisor that gives +10% naval range. However, if I’m playing as a minor nation like Romania or Hungary, for example, I usually only produce fighters and will keep a 3:1 ratio of guns to planes. . 005 * ship production cost in industrial capacity (IC) + 0. Cruiser "spam" seems to have taken that place, although some of the CC community seem to be testing ways to get more crew onto a cheaper hull (since ship crew is part of the calculation for how much control a ship gives). Yes. Firstly is the torpedo-ships. Give your sub snorkel, best (and maximum amount of) torpedos and best engine. It always shows 0% but the game does calculate in this part Sub Visibility vs Sub Detection. Join. r/hoi4. 17. The submarine tree is a standard submarine tree for convoy raiding, not very powerful. Each country has its own unique background, ideology, government, economy, resources, currency, etc. Typically, they are destroyers or submarines for maximum spam. Air superiority reduces enemy breakthrough and defense as well as allows your CAS operate without interference. Before joining the war I wanted to naval invade Gibraltar, Malta and Cyprus really quickly to cut off British ports in the Mediterranean and block their access to it, but my navy got immediately obliterated and I only. 364K subscribers in the hoi4 community. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseBest. bwhite9 • General of the Army • 4 yr. 299k members in the hoi4 community. I'm put a week aside to fully mod the UI to swedish. 1 / 6. It’s pretty simple, but takes focus to make it efficient. 0. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. It's mostly well balanced if you play on historical. It’s pretty simple, but takes focus to make it efficient. Can submarines transfer troops tho might just go full submarine in my game 😭 This thread is archived. But as tech scales up, that gap widens. Hell, the most damage done by naval bombers by Germany was the FW-200 that was converted from a passenger aircraft, and real one, not a cover up one like the He-111 disguised as high speed poorly suited mail and passenger planes. Naval bombers are good to do most of the sinking. The first few patches it was so unbalanced the meta was to spam one ship type (which type changed from patch to patch). The AI has no problem damaging or sinking my older subs, but the 1940 submarines are barely getting detected or shot at. This is the most efficient way to design good divisions if you aren't allowed to participate in the Spanish Civil War. 9K 94K views 3 months ago #hoi4 #sejozwak In my honest and humble opinion, if you want to spam ships which are quickly build, go for one of. Garrison your ports and naval bomb anywhere they try to land. Secondly are the heavy cruisers. Trade Interdiction: In my honest and humble opinion, if you want to spam ships which are quickly build, go for one of these. not if you have to fight a large naval group. This thread is archived. Submarine Spam. 1. Submarines are completely OP. Set. If possible get fighter coverage for the percentage buff and cas to do org/strength damage. Description Discussions 1 Comments 252 Change Notes. ago. Same thing with air wings, although admittedly I don't really know how to organize those in HOI4 either. Fill it with all the rifles and artillery you can find. Get all other divisions out. Their counter is Battle Cruisers. Rush 1940 sub and snorkel. The thing this division is good at is attacking heavy defenses, realistically to soften it up before a armored breakthrough. The convoy escort gives +30% escort efficiency, which is pretty good because it lowers the number of escort ships required, and +20% sub detection for DDs. Sub 3’s are very good, and they are very quick to build. Bathtub is spamming out cheap crappy subs for naval supremacy (typically for naval invasions as they don't always preform the best in naval combat against non-AI players). You can utilize surface raiders as well. It was the first time AI France goes fascist in my game, probably because they get destroyed early on in most games, leaving them without a government to change. Add a Comment. When originally they where givin these cool professional sounding names like raider group, pacific fleet, so on and so forth. 1. ago. Exemple US Submarine . kenzieBHOSbaker • 1 min. No the problem was in the beta patch so it is still present. I would say go with CAs if you're making capital ships at all, you'll have trouble researching all the techs and importing all the steel you need to produce fleet carriers or heavy ships, but you can economize on naval research by building CAs and CLs that rely on the same techs. ago Instead of doing sub spam, I prefer making a good surface fleet. Therefore, I was wanting to know if there was a way to remove this focus through the console or simple file editing (emphasis on simple), or if there was a way to bypass this (I tried Focus. After that, pressing H will do the job. For tanks the IC cost is less since you also need to train Divisions to. Where RRn indicates your "normal" (pre-tech) bonus to research rate, RRi indicates your "improved" (post-tech) bonus, T indicates the base time to research the tech, and D. 11. Firebombing killed more in Japan than the nukes yet two firebombing raids didn't make them surrender. Before I answer and sound stupid, why do you want to change the mod load order? They usually all mount just fine (?) 1. And if you still need more, air sup and CAS. DD and Naval Bomber spam. ago. ago. dishhawkjones • 2 yr. Ok, definitely gonna look into that tomorrow. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20 subs. Set the fleet to convoy raid mission with: split. On infantry 40 widths you can go 12-4-4 inf-art-AA with support AA and you'll take no penalty. ago. UI scale option experimental? Looking in game options menu, UI scale is labeled as 'experimental' with option to set UI scale from 0. My nearest naval base is within this as I have docking rights from Japan. Battleships are by far the single strongest ship you can produce in Hearts of Iron IV. Anything to look out for to. Below water, obviously, is submarine spam. 1. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. Reply Fun. Just want to know how honestly. Hulls are the foundational component of ships, and are unlocked through research. A few factories each guarantee air superiority in china When the war against begins hold northern front and constant push if possible even if slowIt's not like it's hard to get naval superiority in HOI4 but rather that it's too easy. There are too few motorized, you should always aim to always have 30-40 org on your tank templates. Yes that's true but to say it wouldn't have been a game changer is a bit of a stretch. Its a pretty good expansion of the base game. Submarine Designs. Submarine Designs. ago. Deep. I recently watched Hammotimes beginner series and in his Navy video he mentions a "sub spam" method in which you produce a load of T1 subs and leave them on convoy raiding with auto repair etc. ago. The other thing you could do is. This scales [hoi4. HOI4 Special: Subs with snorkels, lots of Naval bombers. Having the factions have different types of boats is incredibly dumb. r/hoi4 • You’re tasked with creating a new Focus Tree for a nation that doesn’t have one, which nation is it, and what’s a main feature of it?. So have some divisions at a port on your coast waiting, scout out the British coast with your fleet before you declare war, then drop the paratroopers on the island in a relatively weak spot and then get your army across the channel. Jump to latest Follow Reply. Long range submarine patrols, and similar mine laying operations are my first two choices. ; About Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki; Mobile viewZone Spam, that is, just clicking every bloody zone for control, will typically only be effective if you have enough groups in your fleet to cover the specified areas. It is an option, you need to enable it in the host settings or it won't let a second person join. As some background I have a little over 400 hours however, I would guess only 50 or less is actually in multiplayer (in other words, I essentially have 50 hours of real experience). The army and air force have a bigger impact on the war than the navy. Surface Raiders have higher kill rates because they have higher surface detection to find convoys. [deleted] • 5 yr. The button is "create a new taskforce" with plus symbol, not "add task force". They serve the same ultimate purpose, destroyers are 2-3x faster and can disengage a lot easier without casualties, can spot far better, etc. Secret Master. Before joining the war I wanted to naval invade Gibraltar, Malta and Cyprus really quickly to cut off British ports in the Mediterranean and block their access to it, but my navy got immediately obliterated and I only. ago. It helps at every strategic level in a big way, and the difference in cost between a light tank division with leg infantry and a light tank division with motorized is tiny. 2. Destroyers are about 1/3 the Ainti-Air strength of a Light Cruiser, which is the most cost-effective ship for AA (outside of a carrier with fighters). Their survivability is in their speed. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. On the Land fort it says it needs defensive bunker technology, and for the trench it says it needs vaubans. a. Research_all I think. Above water is, very specifically: a main super strike fleet comprised of light cruisers with a single medium battery to ensure its in the secondary line, torpedo destroyers, and cheap, expendable screening destroyers; while the rest of the 9 capacity is occupied by cheap, fast, scout cruisers. BETA SGp - Save Game Parser - extracts statistics from SGc. Also spam some naval bombers and put them in the attack english channel mode. 1 * 1. - When your fleet meets and enemy fleet they begin a naval battle. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. 3. Anti-Air II. This video serves as an easy to get into guide regarding submarines and it's various viable templates. not an SSD), I can see this happening. anti air seems useless when playing the soviets the areas are so huge a. Against a stronger naval opponent we can focus on tying up their fleet and destroying supply lines to starve their war machine. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. SS Submarine – cheap, slow, limited loadout options SS Cruiser Submarine – cheap, unique to a few countries, slow, special loadout options. Am I producing equipment the wrong way? Not sure if any of this will make sense but here we go. 7-2 ide say don’t used, just go pure infantry with shovels and artillery support companies, 14-4s are still good. As much as I love HOI4 (2700 hrs), the game isn't designed flawlessly, and for most people, they can safely ignore anything to do with navy and still complete world conquests. Not a huge savings but one that adds up. Sports. IIRC when you plan an airborne invasion you have to assign one of your airport as the launching point (just as you do with naval one from a port) and the assigned units should move there. Maybe your subs don’t have enough coverage or are spread over too many zones. Air superiority helps with naval superiority which helps spotting. FirstEquinox • 4 yr. Whenever I host and start the game speed slows down bit by bit every second or two. Firstly is the torpedo-ships. Submarines. Also, go for bigger divisions (40, 42 or 45 width) when on offense due to focusing and attack to defense ratios. "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. 2) I don't think the AI is sweeping mines. 4. At 1936 level, the DE costs 1100 and the DD costs 1300. bwhite9 General of the Army • 4 yr. It's only a game when there are understandable rules. Yesterday at 8:35 AM. Try fitting a DD with 3 DP guns and 3 torpedoes with depth charges, you run out of slots so you must sacrifice either ASW or a torpedo. Until they find you, that is. Same like equipment losses as well I try to find, for myself and the enemy. 5. ago. But it would be cool to also have, for example, regional factions, where anyone of any (or at least any reasonably-compatible) ideologies can join, so long as they. ago. If you really want to go with navy stuff go with Base Strike. Battleship Designs. I had expeditionary forces from some minor puppet, they were at almost no strength for years down the line. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. angry-mustache • 7 yr. 2. When a large nation goes to war and an ally grants you control of some of their divisions, what are the draw backs? For example, lets say I'm Germany, and Italy grants me control of 30 of their divisions. This is the fact AI never upgrades sonar or detection and will never retreat when they cannot detect their enemy. But in places where you can build radar on land, just have the naval bombers hunt the subs because it's faster to find them with the radar. It would be like if armored trains and rail guns were faction exclusive. The AI isn't prepared so the defense starts scattered. Even low level ports should be able to receive vastly more supply than supply hubs connected by rail. Hoi4 has been making the game more realistic as the game progresses, so why not this. I have started playing hoi4 multiplayer with 2 other friends. In real life, the German heavy surface raiders worked extremely well for tying up lots of Allied ships escorting convoys off the coast of Norway: leaving them unavailable for use elsewhere. Please remember to follow all forum rules. 203. Then select the Feild marshal either from the theater's menu or from the bottom of the screen. As someone with 600 hours in HOI4 and a good understandung of the navy, dont bother. I know we all loved the Light Cruiser spam, but now that this patch amends ship combat and re-balances the stats, how does…As of recently, I have gotten back into the groove of HOI4 and have decided to ramp up the amount of multiplayer games I play. 381K subscribers in the hoi4 community. If they are torpedo destroyers, you can dunk on your opponent and also use light attack heavy cruisers to kill them. The Tech sharing groups are listed as 'tech_sharing_group', near the end of the file. 2. The only techs that are worth it are Fire Control and Submarine Hulls; many other navy techs aren't worth the investment. For example convoys have only 0. New comments cannot be posted and votes. Add a Comment. I'm not sure if the same rules apply here in Darkest Hour. Idk if it's because of enemy intel or his divisions on the front. For example it goes from 3 bars to 2 bars and then 1 bar and then it pauses the game. Business, Economics, and Finance. This makes them heavy cruisers so they get protected by your Destroyers. I don't, but inside the mods folder there will be a folder called 'common' and inside that folder is another folder called 'technologies' and inside that will be several text files named after each researchable tech tree, they contain a list of all the item ids unlocked by researching that tree. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. And if this doesnt work, just reinstall the game, its not that big. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. I'm currently trying a paraguay campaign where I'll be relying on submarines for sea control, if I ever get that far, and I'll probably try using 1940 subs only, for the manpower and production savings. The main tree is mostly for CVs. Fleet in Being is just basic for surface fleets. 1. [deleted] • 7 yr. Turn your 18 width infantry with shovels into 40 width 14-4s with R. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseGo to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. Like I hate that in order to properly organize your navy you have to regroup all the ships to fleets named task force one, task force two and so on. Bait them into encirclement or just out murder them. Oct 3, 2022 @ 1:44am Heavy cruiser can't be spammed because you can't put light guns on a capital heavy cruiser anymore, I thought I overheard some people saying they would just literally. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. After they are gone go to the MS website and download the newest drivers. Most of the time as a major if I have a full line (15 factories) working on rifles I will also have a full line for both fighters and CAS. The Real Housewives of Atlanta The Bachelor Sister Wives 90 Day Fiance Wife Swap The Amazing Race Australia Married at First Sight The Real Housewives of Dallas My 600-lb Life Last Week Tonight. ago. The only thing that worked was restarting my computer. Quick question does the cabinet slide work on that one or is it the modWay to go Paradox. ago. Set you sub fleet to engage at high risk, medium repair priority and enable automatic split off. 203. I swear every time I try to use paratroopers they give me a headache, the times where they simply wouldn't launch are more that the ones where they worked! CommanderEggnog • 2 min. Polysci123 • 9 mo. Get them close to the border and set off the conflict. Generalfaster • 1 hr. For it to work you may also have to delete the mod folders and unsubscribe. 3 comments. Spam basic infantry and forts, and try to get Italy on your side. Attack for a good while, halt. I know the point of the MtG update/expansion is to combat the current meta of BB/CV spam, and to combat naval force "inflation" (i. Putting naval bombers and fighters along with radars on land will find the enemy navy extremely fast and put a lot of damage on them. There is no point in adding more than three main batteries. 666. When the units are in transit, you can cancel the attack using 'H', they. If you have 100 base attack, with 10% bonus from commander and 25% bonus from veterancy, your unit would have 137. Enitity_Enigma • 21 days ago. : r/hoi4. Vote. Option a) naval bomber option b) submarine. 0. You can put groups of DDs on Invasion support to have them tag along with the troop transports. With field hospitals and big 40w armored divisions I can have 7 veterans by the end. Best. Antonio. 11. Now there's only one way to basically play Japan for example. mainman879 • 9 mo. 05 * ship manpower. When the AI builds Carriers I believe they are 50% Fighter and 50% Naval Bomber. Franco-British union ftw! I should play a game as france hold out as long as I can. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. Any of the same modifier will stack additively, so in your example of 10% output + 20% output, you'd have 30% output. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Join. Also just bypass the fort/mountain. I don't get supremacy and neither win naval battles to weaken the enemy. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. - Each naval region has a certain amount of superiority depending on the strength of each fleet. They have the world's greatest submarine battleship force. Console command to change nations once they are formed. I would say subs are the most OP. Split into 3-4 task forces of submarines under an admiral, preferably one with Bold trait and then the Sea Wolf earned trait followed by the Spotter or Superior Tactician earned traits. Add support units or tanks if you can make them. The year is 1953 and I am still waiting for the AI to make any attempt of a naval invasion so I can nuke my own core territory and unlock the achievement. Build 2)’s Cruisers but also spam Destroyers with full torpedoes on them. The mod looks to make these changes to the regions: - Focus trees for every country south of Mexico. Naval bombers delete the screens, subs kill the convoys and capitals. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. Other naval ship terms: CA: heavy cruiser BC: battlecruiser BB: battleship CV: aircraft carrier SS: submarine Light cruisers are generally referred to cruisers with guns no larger than 6” caliber. You cant retake a fallback position as it wouldn't be "Falling Back". "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. g. Subs are fine for playing defense and raiding convoys, but they no longer give sea control to allow invasions. 8K subscribers Subscribe 2. Rush the focuses: Revive the national bloc-laissez faire-economic devolution-protect rights of man-blum violet proposal-expand citizenship-encourage immigration-utilize the leagues-counsil of remboillet-revise the constitution and continue from there to the napoleon focuses. I wrote a program to calculate every singe possible tank, give me your stats and I'll tell you the cheapest tank that fulfills them. The two german minelayers indirectly killed a good number of ships in my last run. Even shorter for something like India. The USN also has some capital ships, although. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. ago. com] with the 'hourly change' value and the 'Base detection. If you have 100 base attack, with 10% bonus from commander and 25% bonus from veterancy, your unit would have 137. It was the first time AI France goes fascist in my game, probably because they get destroyed early on in most games, leaving them without a government to change. In my honest and humble opinion, if you want to spam ships which are quickly build, go for one of these. Philadelphia 76ers Premier League UFC. You could also use something like the tool pack mod to just give yourself some of the land. 3. 12. Build Destroyers + Sonar + Depth Chargers. Also flanking and encirclement. 6% better. Recon fleets come in about five ships, and sub fleets use five to ten submarines. I just tried to reload older save files and tag to the Nationalist Spain, apparently Enrique Lister despite having stalinist loyalty and don't have trait Nationalist sympathizer decided to become a Nationalist generals, and when SCW end he can't join because he got pulled to the nationalist. Pairing with this, I still think Submarine spam is viable if you're gonna go the long game. They need to HURT. Edit to link to my cut/paste. SirStrider666 • 4 yr. The only case for it is to up the task force's average submarine spotting stats if other ships in the task force have depth charges, but you should have special ASW designs and strike forces anyways. Submarine spam is the only way to play hoi4 navy Reply Kermez • Additional comment actions. l to ensure that your capitals are effectively screened. Motorized are largely just faster infantry. 8. 2. • 17 days ago. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. Win. You can either 'cheat' by making the tech sharing group non-reliant on a NF (as it used to be), or you can just remove yourself from the group and restart the NF. Give collies submarine. This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. Possibly the easiest meta in the game, and the one that most people go for is the submarine spam. 17 Badges. ago. A destroyer already has a base submarine detection of 1, and RADAR adds detection, so save the SONAR. For your all around infantry template you can go 7 infantry, 2 artillery, support art, engineer, recon, support anti. Perhaps whatever nation you are does as well? Higher level naval hulls give higher range. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. DD is a submarine hunter and cannon fodder. Put in a good engine and a snorkel if you have them so you can evade detection better. They're more for convoy raiding. Overrun happens when your troops start a retreat into friendly territory, but before their move finishes, the territory changes hands to the enemy, giving them nowhere valid to retreat to. I've read mines help with naval supremacy and they are relatively efficient submarine wise. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. 05 * ship manpower. I seem to not be able to pass anything above 2 bar speed regardless of what setting the game speed bar is on. 3. 82. lancefighter • 4 yr. You cant ever build historical Japanese DDs. Radar cruisers and aa capital ships are useful as well if you can afford them. If you play non-historical mode be prepared to see some weird stuff, e. I've never experience it while gaming but I have while watching YouTube in full screen mode. The investment and the payoff are well worth the cost of protection so before you spam a carrier fleet, make sure it’s got support. Good enough. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. As we all know ships in Hoi4 have been completely changed the old "rock-paper-scissors" system of pre MTG naval combat, e. The Bismarck and Tirpitz failed, but the Graf Spee was very successful for 4 months of unchecked convoy raiding. Television. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox. No navy except maximum submarine spam. In the past 3 years I've destroyed maybe 30 of their ships, while I lost a total of about 150-200 ships (I started with around 400-450, now I only have about 250). Seriously though. hold the Suez, Singapore, and retake Ethiopia. spam destroyers armed with best radar and torpedoes and see what happens. Then this will then evenly distribute the armies over the from the line. r/hoi4 • You’re tasked with creating a new Focus Tree for a nation that doesn’t have one, which nation is it, and what’s a main feature of it? r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy?1. ago. Reply. Good enough. 1. 2- start preparing (or just pump divs out) to make a lot of divisions to rush anschluss. ago. Naval Bombers are the fastest and most cost efficient way early on.